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My question is, am I allowed to chain a trap like Bottomless Trap Hole to a Fusion or Ritual summon or any other spell that summons a monster on resolution? I know you can use cards that specifically negate spells and traps that summon monsters like Solemn Warning, but am I able to use a card like Solemn Strike to negate the Fusion or Ritual summon, even though it only happens on resolution?
Leaving an answer here because the answer by spaff is incorrect. Things actually get a bit more complicated. First of all, this has very little to do with spell speeds, as a summon itself does not have a spell speed.
The spell used for summoning the monster does, and there's no problem negating this with a card like 'Magic Jammer' or 'Solemn Warning'.
Once the monster is summoned successfully, a window opens in which you can react to the summon with cards like 'Bottomless Trap Hole' or 'Torrential Tribute'. Note that this is not the same as chaining. These cards will start a new chain at that point. Lastly, we have cards that negate a summon e. These cards cannot be use against other effects that would summon a monster except if they specifically mention being able to negate that effect itself, such as 'Solemn Warning', which can do both.
So the kind of summon these cards can negate are called in the case of a special summon, I'm ignoring normal or tribute summons here inherent special summons. These are summons that do not form a chain when performed. This includes Synchro, Xyz, Pendulum, and Link summons. They also include contact fusions e. Both of these can be chained to the summoning of a monster. As for your question on resolution, it wouldn't matter.
Solemn strike negates the summon, so essentially, the card used to summon resolves, and then Solemn Strike prevents the monster from ever actually hitting the field. This is an attractive effect to a lot of players against certain decks because this prevents effects that happen when monsters are summoned, since the spell spell resolves, but the summoning does not. Sign up to join this community.
The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Stack Overflow for Teams — Collaborate and share knowledge with a private group. Create a free Team What is Teams? Learn more. Asked 3 years, 3 months ago. Active 3 years, 3 months ago. Viewed 2k times. Improve this question. Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. Things actually get a bit more complicated First of all, this has very little to do with spell speeds, as a summon itself does not have a spell speed.
However Warning if you have less than LP then it becomes unusable. At the same time Judgment can negate spells and traps as well and they don't have to be specifically just to summon, while Warning is specifically only to stop a summoning.
I often carry both either in the deck or at least in my side deck for match plays when needed. I agree, but in most of my duels lately with a small 40 card build drawing the trap is much faster, so paying a small 2k is better then half. I'd call that a link summon. Warning doesn't negate those, but it can negate the card that does it. For example it cannot negate the fusion summon of Cyber End Dragon, however it can negate Polymerization which is the card that caused the summoning.
Same with rituals, you negate the ritual spell card and not the actual monster. Solemn Warning cannot negate the effects of already face up spell or traps, it would have to negate the initial activation however Fusion Gate does not perform a special summon when it is initially activated.
Thank you for putting this together. Nice work, so many people try to negate it after the fusion or something is already completed and not the card special summoning it. If they wish to do a summon that requires 2 tributes, and the opponent activates solemn warning, does it stop the summon after they have made their 2 tributes to summon thier monster or before they get the chance to tribute any of their monsters?
I would think the negation is after they tribute their monsters and pay the summoning fee then it gets negated by solemn warning. Tributing is a cost. You pay the cost before being able to summon. Therefore you tribute your two monsters, then try to summon a monster, Solemn Warning activates and negates the summon.
Yeah, its just that Ive seen players say they shouldnt lose their monsters they were going to tribute because it negated them being able to summon and because it stopped them from summoning they didnt get to tribute their monsters and thus dont lose them.
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Facebook Steam Twitter. Sign in to follow this Followers 0. Reply to this topic Start new topic. Recommended Posts. Koby 17, Report post. Posted August 25, If a active miracle fusion and ask my opponent for response and he does nothing and then I summon my monster will he be able to active solemn warning now or did he missed his chance because my monster came from a card effect and he didnt negate it?
Because : He missed his chance. It's an Activation Effect, which " Solemn Warning " should prevent, not Timing Summoning - like your "then 1 summ0n mah monster will h3 b3 able to active solemn warn-ing now" point. In long story short, he missed his chance due to you had already play the plan. To make it correct, he should Warning your " Miracle Fusion " from start.
So, what does this mean regarding some cards? Cards such as "Solemn Warning" and "Royal Oppression" also can negate effects that Special Summon, but they actually must use it on the effect. Once an effect begins resolving it is too late to negate the summon resolving from that card. I thought Fusion Gate is like Miracle Fusion , an effect that special summons monster s A: It's because when you first activate Fusion Gate place it face-up , it does not perform a Special Summon.
This is the only time in which you can respond with Solemn Warning , but you fail to meet Warning's requirement. After that, it's too late. The special summon does not start a chain, so you can't activate Oppression in the 2nd Standby Phase to negate it.
Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. Seabs 0. Posted December 12, Posted December 23, This is helpful. I appreciate your work. Posted February 17, Posted February 18, If you had bothered to read the first post you'd know the answer to that. However there is this too: Solemn Warning cannot negate the effects of already face up spell or traps, it would have to negate the initial activation however Fusion Gate does not perform a special summon when it is initially activated.
Posted March 5, DarkDream Posted October 31, edited. Solemn warning says pay life points to negate the summon of a monster. Edited October 31, by DarkDream Posted October 31, Join the conversation You can post now and register later.
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